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	<title>Comments on: from F-Spot to iPhoto in 8 painful months</title>
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		<title>By: From F-Spot to iPhoto (or Picasa): Transfering Keywords [Tips &#38; Tricks] &#124; The Linux Daily</title>
		<link>http://www.michiganaccent.com/2008/08/30/from-f-spot-to-iphoto-in-8-painful-months/comment-page-1/#comment-11578</link>
		<dc:creator>From F-Spot to iPhoto (or Picasa): Transfering Keywords [Tips &#38; Tricks] &#124; The Linux Daily</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Apr 2010 20:21:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: bcp</title>
		<link>http://www.michiganaccent.com/2008/08/30/from-f-spot-to-iphoto-in-8-painful-months/comment-page-1/#comment-10323</link>
		<dc:creator>bcp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Oct 2009 20:42:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Liam,

Thanks for the comments.  It&#039;s interesting that you mention that bit about the random screensaver.  I&#039;ve always thought it would be nice to either view or edit a caption for a particular picture as it pops up in the rotation.  Great idea.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Liam,</p>
<p>Thanks for the comments.  It&#8217;s interesting that you mention that bit about the random screensaver.  I&#8217;ve always thought it would be nice to either view or edit a caption for a particular picture as it pops up in the rotation.  Great idea.</p>
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		<title>By: liam k</title>
		<link>http://www.michiganaccent.com/2008/08/30/from-f-spot-to-iphoto-in-8-painful-months/comment-page-1/#comment-10176</link>
		<dc:creator>liam k</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 12:31:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>just thought i&#039;d add a note here having read through this. 
I use f-spot to manage over 30,000 photos without any issues. 

well... not exactly no issues... i use the ubuntu package from the repositories and on that atleast there are frequent memory leaks which means that if i use it for too long a period of time it eats up all the memory on my system and everything grinds to a halt. this isnt too much of a problem, i just have to restart it once in a while. 

What i&#039;d like is to be able to get a list of the photos that have been played in the screen saver. With 30,000 pics the random screensaver is quite interesting (especially with dual head where you get a different image on each screen changing out of sync). Ideally i&#039;d like to be able to stop the screensaver and add tags or comments. 

which brings me to my biggest gripe. I can&#039;t add comments! 
only tags i have to predefine and are a bit unwieldy. Id like to be able to add a keywords instantly to a photo, and maybe a sentence or two and then search by either... 

one day... if i ever get time... i might look into the f-spot source and see if i can get either of these features... 

otherwise I&#039;m still bumbling along with f-spot despite it&#039;s faults, it&#039;s not perfect but it is open source. I used to use g-thumb, but i think that had even more issues.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>just thought i&#8217;d add a note here having read through this.<br />
I use f-spot to manage over 30,000 photos without any issues. </p>
<p>well&#8230; not exactly no issues&#8230; i use the ubuntu package from the repositories and on that atleast there are frequent memory leaks which means that if i use it for too long a period of time it eats up all the memory on my system and everything grinds to a halt. this isnt too much of a problem, i just have to restart it once in a while. </p>
<p>What i&#8217;d like is to be able to get a list of the photos that have been played in the screen saver. With 30,000 pics the random screensaver is quite interesting (especially with dual head where you get a different image on each screen changing out of sync). Ideally i&#8217;d like to be able to stop the screensaver and add tags or comments. </p>
<p>which brings me to my biggest gripe. I can&#8217;t add comments!<br />
only tags i have to predefine and are a bit unwieldy. Id like to be able to add a keywords instantly to a photo, and maybe a sentence or two and then search by either&#8230; </p>
<p>one day&#8230; if i ever get time&#8230; i might look into the f-spot source and see if i can get either of these features&#8230; </p>
<p>otherwise I&#8217;m still bumbling along with f-spot despite it&#8217;s faults, it&#8217;s not perfect but it is open source. I used to use g-thumb, but i think that had even more issues.</p>
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		<title>By: Topher</title>
		<link>http://www.michiganaccent.com/2008/08/30/from-f-spot-to-iphoto-in-8-painful-months/comment-page-1/#comment-6041</link>
		<dc:creator>Topher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Feb 2009 20:11:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kids, dogs, vacation, etc.  :)  I recently pulled all my photos together on one drive, I&#039;ll give it another shot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kids, dogs, vacation, etc.  <img src='http://www.michiganaccent.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   I recently pulled all my photos together on one drive, I&#8217;ll give it another shot.</p>
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		<title>By: bcp</title>
		<link>http://www.michiganaccent.com/2008/08/30/from-f-spot-to-iphoto-in-8-painful-months/comment-page-1/#comment-6040</link>
		<dc:creator>bcp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Feb 2009 19:58:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Topher,

Only 50 photos?  What kind of pictures were they!? :-)  When I was using F-Spot a year ago we easily had about 1,500.  I used it in Fedora and Ubuntu, just using the stock package that came with those distros (not compiling from source or anything), and never ran into issues.  Interesting.

bcp</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Topher,</p>
<p>Only 50 photos?  What kind of pictures were they!? <img src='http://www.michiganaccent.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />   When I was using F-Spot a year ago we easily had about 1,500.  I used it in Fedora and Ubuntu, just using the stock package that came with those distros (not compiling from source or anything), and never ran into issues.  Interesting.</p>
<p>bcp</p>
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		<title>By: Topher</title>
		<link>http://www.michiganaccent.com/2008/08/30/from-f-spot-to-iphoto-in-8-painful-months/comment-page-1/#comment-6016</link>
		<dc:creator>Topher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Feb 2009 22:11:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would love to love F-Spot, but I can never get it to deal with more than about 50 photos.  Once I get more than that, it&#039;s wildly unstable, essentially not running at all.  I try it about once a year, for the last 5 or so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would love to love F-Spot, but I can never get it to deal with more than about 50 photos.  Once I get more than that, it&#8217;s wildly unstable, essentially not running at all.  I try it about once a year, for the last 5 or so.</p>
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		<title>By: bcp</title>
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		<dc:creator>bcp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Feb 2009 20:09:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Derek,

I&#039;m not going to try and convince you that iPhoto&#039;s the best photo management tool out there.  However, of the Mac options, I like it enough to continue using it.  My wife and I only need the most basic photo editing capabilities (red eye, cropping, rotating), captioning, and organizing into albums.  For those things, iPhoto gets the job done.  

The transition wasn&#039;t too bad, though there are some UI things I don&#039;t like about iPhoto and wish they&#039;d change (e.g., how captioning is done).  Keyboard shortcuts have helped address those, making them a bit more bearable.

I did enjoy using F-Spot.  It&#039;s been over a year since I&#039;ve checked it out, and I have no doubt development has continued to make it even better.  If memory serves correctly, I think one of my frustrations at the time was the inability to manage video clips alongside photos, which iPhoto has done since I started using it.  But I very much liked F-Spot, and the main reason for transitioning was because we switched to a Mac.  I&#039;m not going to try and convince you to leave F-Spot behind!

bcp</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Derek,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not going to try and convince you that iPhoto&#8217;s the best photo management tool out there.  However, of the Mac options, I like it enough to continue using it.  My wife and I only need the most basic photo editing capabilities (red eye, cropping, rotating), captioning, and organizing into albums.  For those things, iPhoto gets the job done.  </p>
<p>The transition wasn&#8217;t too bad, though there are some UI things I don&#8217;t like about iPhoto and wish they&#8217;d change (e.g., how captioning is done).  Keyboard shortcuts have helped address those, making them a bit more bearable.</p>
<p>I did enjoy using F-Spot.  It&#8217;s been over a year since I&#8217;ve checked it out, and I have no doubt development has continued to make it even better.  If memory serves correctly, I think one of my frustrations at the time was the inability to manage video clips alongside photos, which iPhoto has done since I started using it.  But I very much liked F-Spot, and the main reason for transitioning was because we switched to a Mac.  I&#8217;m not going to try and convince you to leave F-Spot behind!</p>
<p>bcp</p>
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		<title>By: Derek Hildreth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Derek Hildreth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 16:07:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I appreciate the feedback on that!

As of now, my impressions of iPhoto are terrible.  I&#039;ve tried to do some photo management, but I can&#039;t seem to get used to it.  It&#039;s pretty, but I just like F-Spot better!  Was your transition tough as well?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I appreciate the feedback on that!</p>
<p>As of now, my impressions of iPhoto are terrible.  I&#8217;ve tried to do some photo management, but I can&#8217;t seem to get used to it.  It&#8217;s pretty, but I just like F-Spot better!  Was your transition tough as well?</p>
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		<title>By: bcp</title>
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		<dc:creator>bcp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 01:53:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Derek,

In thinking about this further, I may have misunderstood what you were asking.  I don&#039;t think having iPhoto and F-Spot sharing the same image files would work, even if you could stuff them with the EXIF data tags that each of them needs.  Both applications create libraries/databases of meta information not included in the image files themselves (I&#039;m assuming for things like event names and collections, etc.).  That being the case, I&#039;m assuming after adding the appropriate EXIF data to the images you&#039;d still have to go through the import process with each application for them to catalog the photos.  At least that&#039;s my assumption.

bcp</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Derek,</p>
<p>In thinking about this further, I may have misunderstood what you were asking.  I don&#8217;t think having iPhoto and F-Spot sharing the same image files would work, even if you could stuff them with the EXIF data tags that each of them needs.  Both applications create libraries/databases of meta information not included in the image files themselves (I&#8217;m assuming for things like event names and collections, etc.).  That being the case, I&#8217;m assuming after adding the appropriate EXIF data to the images you&#8217;d still have to go through the import process with each application for them to catalog the photos.  At least that&#8217;s my assumption.</p>
<p>bcp</p>
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		<title>By: bcp</title>
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		<dc:creator>bcp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Feb 2009 20:34:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Derek,

Thanks for the tip about the F-Spot Keywords!  I hadn&#039;t noticed that tag previously.

That&#039;s a good question about a dual-boot environment.  I&#039;m assuming you won&#039;t be able to do much with the native iPhoto library files from Linux (assuming you have direct access to them while in Linux).   I believe F-Spot can now share photos via DPAP such that iPhoto can browse them, but that assumes both OSes are on the network at the same time.  If you have to dual boot and want all imported photos in both locations, you may be forced to script some type of export/import solution each time new photos are added.  I only make updates in iPhoto now, so your question is one I hadn&#039;t thought about previously.  Sorry I don&#039;t have a better suggestion!

bcp</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Derek,</p>
<p>Thanks for the tip about the F-Spot Keywords!  I hadn&#8217;t noticed that tag previously.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s a good question about a dual-boot environment.  I&#8217;m assuming you won&#8217;t be able to do much with the native iPhoto library files from Linux (assuming you have direct access to them while in Linux).   I believe F-Spot can now share photos via DPAP such that iPhoto can browse them, but that assumes both OSes are on the network at the same time.  If you have to dual boot and want all imported photos in both locations, you may be forced to script some type of export/import solution each time new photos are added.  I only make updates in iPhoto now, so your question is one I hadn&#8217;t thought about previously.  Sorry I don&#8217;t have a better suggestion!</p>
<p>bcp</p>
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